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« on: 20/10/2009, 07:21 AM »

Came across this during my morning coffee surfing.

I don't care what you guys have to say about the yanks, when I see stuff like this, I'm glad they are on our side.

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« Reply #1 on: 20/10/2009, 07:57 AM »

That is amazing...that airburst round is unbelievable and how friggin accurate is the platform...WOW +1 for giving me a hard on
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« Reply #2 on: 20/10/2009, 11:19 AM »

We only get to see what our allies have.
You wont find any of the weapons that our enemies have (esp China).

On that subject,
from what I understand China are looking at weapons from a different angle. They wana use weapons that trigger natural disasters that are directed at a specific area.
You can see examples of this with the recent Olympics with the anti-rain cannons they used. They fire them in the clouds when rain is expected and it stops the rain somehow.

They apparently also have (or are working on), making torrential rain/floods, stopping rain, creating cyclones and generating earthquakes in a given area.

Conspiracy theory (grabs tin foil hat).
The eathquake in western China about a year ago when the children at the school died was apparently an earthquake weapon test that erupted in the wrong area.

IMO thats much more scary as a weapon than any man-made weapon.
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« Reply #3 on: 20/10/2009, 12:12 PM »

SORRY smiddi, but thats bullshit. PLA budget for x weapons is alot granted, but as a whole it makes up less then 1% of there military budget, and that 1% IS for all experimental projects, the PLA is concentrating on catching up to the US with Conventional projects, submarines, Aircraft carriers, mechinized armoured groups and air deployable task forces. its all part of them preparing for expanding their area of dominance, particuarlly to places like africa where the chinese have HUGE investments in local resources.
oh and by the way what you see on future weapons is about 2 years from the curve of developement. and thats for the stuff we will actually be let know about. rs25 brings back  some memories there.
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« Reply #4 on: 21/10/2009, 05:56 AM »

Yarp...you'll never see the real deal.

My platoon got to test fire a Particle Projection rifle that the yanks were hocking off cheap as the technology was 5 yrs old to them and cumbersome/very expensive to use..it fired an ice round that contained diamond and sand particles, it could pepper a tank at 500 meters with zero drop and punch thru 1 meter thick steel plates leaving thousands of tiny holes...effectively shredding the occupants of tanks/apcs...and that was 14 yrs ago now..so that technology was 19 yrs old.

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« Reply #5 on: 21/10/2009, 08:09 AM »

Wow, you know you've got to much money when you are using diamonds for bullets.
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« Reply #6 on: 21/10/2009, 10:17 AM »

Only tiny grains of diamond...I imagine it would be like an engagement ring for a girl...put on a sander...thingy.

Either way the cost of firing it was almost $1000 per round, but only a fraction of that was due to the diamond content...mainly it was the cost of assembling per round.
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« Reply #7 on: 21/10/2009, 11:24 AM »

On that subject, Chal.

When I was working for ADI they had a gun ammunation shot (ie a bullet) that could be lazer guided to the target.
The ship would sit over the horizon and fire the shot 7km in the general direction as ground troops. The ground troops would point a non-visible lazer at the target and the round would guide itself to the lazer indicator.

But it was also expensive per round.

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« Reply #8 on: 21/10/2009, 11:56 AM »

Wow, you know you've got to much money when you are using diamonds for bullets.


Actually diamonds aren't really as rare as they are made out to be, their price and supply is kept artificially inflated by the companies that deal with them, notably the DeBeers cartel. They can actually create synthetic diamonds now that are perfectly flawless for much less than these companies sell them.

In the past you used to pay top dollar for flawless diamonds, but now that they can make flawless one synthetically the cartels turned around and said that its the flaws in the diamonds that make them so special so they can charge more...

Anyway, the point is that it probably would not cost as much as you would think to use diamonds as ammunition.
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« Reply #9 on: 21/10/2009, 12:01 PM »

On another note doesn't the American army use depleted Uranium rounds , id think that would cost a bit.
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« Reply #10 on: 21/10/2009, 05:25 PM »

you'd only really know if you found out what the diaond is chemically made of, but that costs a shit load for diamond companies and no one would really give a f*ck to do that about that many diamonds.

but when i first read the chinese weapon thing i thought (note: there is sarcasm) "SHIT, their war tactic is to stop rain, SAVE US ALL"
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« Reply #11 on: 21/10/2009, 07:35 PM »

i can hardly walk for all the bull in here,
with every lie a grain of truth can be found.

#1 dear chal, your particle cannon is almost true, but its the size of a small factory, and almost needs its own power plant to fuel it.
#2 yes the yanks did make a anti-tank round made out of silicon and hyper pressurized carbon. but turned out Staballoys with DU was far cheaper to make and more effective.

#3 both radar guided and laser guided munitions are either in service or in prototype stages, RDP or radar directed projectiles i have heard about since 1998, the laser guided munition family is only a recent application and i am not fully aware of its capabilities. both systems have limited corrective abilities and both systems use spin stabilization in-flight correction technologies to make flight path changes. these are however only regarding KEM Direct fire Munitions and not Non line of sight munition technology that combines GPS guidance and laser/radar target acquisition.

#4 the anti rain and rain making tech has been around since the 1940's its really crude not hugely effective,and ridiculously expensive. but it does exist and it does work (a bit). the tech is fairly common knowledge and makes for a great story of how they found out how to stop rain!. rain making is basically cloud seeding, but dump enough into a small local depression or  use a hydrogen-oxygen furnace, and you "can possibly" create small cyclones.

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« Reply #12 on: 21/10/2009, 09:30 PM »

i can hardly walk for all the bull in here,
with every lie a grain of truth can be found.

#1 dear chal, your particle cannon is almost true, but its the size of a small factory, and almost needs its own power plant to fuel it.



Ummm...I'm deadly serious...It was a large rifle with bipod, magazines were stored in a mini freezer type pouch...actual projectile just looked like a piece of cloudy ice shaped like a standard projectile only pointier, hose went from backpack type thing to mag pouch.

I fired the thing and believe me, i'm not big enough to carry a building around...but I appreciate your vote of confidence, it had tiny recoil...the concept was quite simple...store the round in a mini freezer that you can carry (awkwardly) and shoot the round...as the round travels thru the air the ice heats and as the round impacted the diamond and sand particles, being so small and travelling so fast would punch thru the composition of the metal itself...not blasting holes...just peppering the target with tiny little mosquito bite sized holes...just a shit load of em.

So its not an Anti-Tank round..its an Anti-personell round that can hit thru hard targets

Only thing that made the rifle unique at all was it fired in some weird way (cant remember) that didn't crack the round..i.e. standard rounds go boom, projectile is forced out of casing and smacks bad guy in head.

so as to your response Anglo Kiss Kiss Kiss Smiley

Your point 3 is spot fuck on btw, though never seen em in use...think they were after my day and even if they were in...us grunts dont get to play with em much/if at all Sad

P.s. I only call it a particle projection rifle, cuz thats what it does, I cant remember the designated name of the weapon, i keep thinking of PSG which I know isnt right, cheers though for trying to keep us straight...even when we are...I'll try to find a pic/description of the weapon/rounds to show ya's it
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« Reply #13 on: 22/10/2009, 08:43 AM »

you and i ARE going to have a talk. ... a very long talk.
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« Reply #14 on: 22/10/2009, 01:44 PM »

I know some ski resorts employ cloud seeding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

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