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« on: 26/02/2013, 03:21 PM »

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/28757/-six-strikes-copyright-alert-system-takes-effect-in-the-united-states/index.html

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« Reply #1 on: 26/02/2013, 03:31 PM »

Its a good day for the russian seedbox industry.

This is so retarded on so many levels. Why can't "content creators" understand that if they made their content available as a worldwide download in a timely fashion for a reasonable price, most piracy would disappear within a month. I used to pirate games because it was the fastest way to get a hold of them. I don't pirate games anymore because it now takes less time to buy and download them legally than it does to pirate them.

On the other hand, I tried to buy some mp3's of a band that I like a while ago. These were available off the record labels website, but because I am in Australia it wouldn't let me buy them. I spent half an hour trying to find a download service (that wasn't iTunes) that would let me actually give them money but none would, so fuck them. (Admittedly I buy all my music on CD now for the sound quality.)

I've talked to a lot of people about this and they tend to agree that most of their piracy is motivated by laziness or lack of content availability in their region. Price is only a small factor (although movies and TV shows are way overpriced for what you get.)
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« Reply #2 on: 26/02/2013, 04:54 PM »

I fully agree with you harry. I think that asking $80 for one season of a show that is at least a year old is extreme when you could (if it is offered) watch it on pay TV for about half of that or pirate it for free. Now if the studios or whomever adopted a pay per view model where you could spend a couple of dollars to watch that hit show or perhaps subscribe to the season without the ads and chaff that plague pay TV I would be on that for sure. Then if you want to buy a hard copy at the end of the season you could do so.

I blame the media magnates who have so much control over what we must pay for and what is "free". I fucking hate ads and now they are doing product placements within the shows it works to detach you from the unreality that you have paid your hard earned for.

Give me a medium that I, an informed and discerning consumer, can purchase a show I love and wish to support at a fair, realistic and reasonable price. Then make it ad free. Only then will I be happy.

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« Reply #3 on: 26/02/2013, 05:10 PM »

I fully agree with you harry. I think that asking $80 for one season of a show that is at least a year old is extreme when you could (if it is offered) watch it on pay TV for about half of that or pirate it for free. Now if the studios or whomever adopted a pay per view model where you could spend a couple of dollars to watch that hit show or perhaps subscribe to the season without the ads and chaff that plague pay TV I would be on that for sure. Then if you want to buy a hard copy at the end of the season you could do so.
Good news Toki, it exists.

Xbox live does exactly that.

Costs about $3 an episode, or your can buy a 'season pass' which my xbox tells me works out cheaper though I've never done the maths. I got on xbox live for games, but I find it to be a very easy way to watch shows and movies. I don;'t know how good it is with everything, but Walking Dead is avaiable within a day of it airing in the states.
I haven't used it yet, but you can also access a lot of the foxtel content on a pay per view basis through xbox live, though I've never used it. The xbox live library has been enough so far.
I know there is a lot of console hate here because it dumbs things down, but I gotta say, in this instance dumbing down is perfect. I scroll through movies, as I look at them their preview starts up, I can access the cast and link directly to imdb. If I want it, I click buy, it starts streaming and I'm watching it straight away.
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« Reply #4 on: 26/02/2013, 05:42 PM »

To Bageled:
Is it a one time view or a download? also adds?

To Harry:
Doubt it will effect us, ISPs in Australia have no legal obligation to comply with this system as far as I know and have no benefit from the overhead. This argument seems invalid (in this case) when the strike system is not meant to target us but Americans who already have access to these things.
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« Reply #5 on: 26/02/2013, 06:28 PM »

Easily circumvented by a VPN service. Surely if people are prepared to pay $15/month for a VPN content providers can come up with a similarly priced service to satisfy demand. Streaming isn't  option oprion as it doesn't allow people to view content when, where and on what they want.
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« Reply #6 on: 26/02/2013, 07:02 PM »

The problem with xbox live is that you need to buy a Gold membership at about $90 a year plus the console itself and then pay for each movie you watch...

I reckon netflix is awesome and I seriously don't understand why they don't pull their finger out and allow aussies to use it. $8 a month and you get unlimited movies. Most TV's and DVD/bluray players have web browsers these days and you can use these to access netflix.
My mate has got it setup but he pays an additional $5 a month for VPN access to get past their country filter. He is a big movie buff though and he will come home from work and watch a movie just about every night.

I don't have it myself because I watch movies so ad-hoc that paying a monthly fee doesn't suit me.

kesawi is right, there should be a service that allows you to download movies cheaply, say $2-$3 each and save them so you can watch them when you want on any device you want (like load up a tablet for a long flight). Currently torrents are the only service that offers this.

We should be wary of these silly rules they bring in over in the USA because you can bet the yanks will try to force these regulations on Australia and NZ thanks to the free trade agreement. They sound pretty ineffective though.
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« Reply #7 on: 27/02/2013, 08:01 AM »

You can get 12 months of xbox live for about $50.

With tv shows, you purchase it, and can download or stream. With movies there is a rental price and a purchase price, I don't recall what the costs are, I've only watched one movie.
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« Reply #8 on: 27/02/2013, 09:57 AM »

There are movie/tv series digital rental sites in Australia. Quickflix has one, but it's expensive and limited. Nowhere near as comprehensive as Netflix, or as good value.
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« Reply #9 on: 27/02/2013, 06:24 PM »

You can get 12 months of xbox live for about $50.

With tv shows, you purchase it, and can download or stream. With movies there is a rental price and a purchase price, I don't recall what the costs are, I've only watched one movie.
Movie rentals work out to be about $2. i do this quite often on my xbox. My only issue with it is that the content isnt updated or comprehensive... but then i don't watch too many movies, and when i do it is either on the xbox or at the cinema (in gold class and with someone else...).
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« Reply #11 on: 28/02/2013, 07:49 AM »

"Oh, we forgot to mention, it's all porn."

But seriously that guy is pretty awesome.
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« Reply #12 on: 28/02/2013, 08:45 AM »

That is one heck of a name
Hyman Stratchman...hymen stretch man
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« Reply #13 on: 28/02/2013, 09:13 AM »

way to go making a heart warming story all lowbrow Bageled.

Back on topic, bittorrent use lowers, usenet use increases...
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« Reply #14 on: 28/02/2013, 09:28 AM »

Yeah Bageled, why do you hate freedom?
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